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	<title>Comments on: Cha-Cha Proponents: Clinging to an Obsolete Ideology</title>
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		<title>By: tubong_probinsya</title>
		<link>http://www.pinoypress.net/2009/04/16/cha-cha-proponents-clinging-to-an-obsolete-ideology/comment-page-1/#comment-28105</link>
		<dc:creator>tubong_probinsya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob J

I see where you coming from, academia. But you can&#039;t help notice the irreconcilable results.

Your going into technical claims about carpenter and businessmen, I feel. You have support about the misunderstanding? This misunderstanding have to play a significant role why people are dying of impartial government. 

Will impartial government guarantee jobs, increase food supply, will it keep foreign goods from taking over local markets?

I think what you real wanting to say is RESPONSIBLE governance

What about RESPONSIBLE Governance?

Can you comment on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob J</p>
<p>I see where you coming from, academia. But you can&#8217;t help notice the irreconcilable results.</p>
<p>Your going into technical claims about carpenter and businessmen, I feel. You have support about the misunderstanding? This misunderstanding have to play a significant role why people are dying of impartial government. </p>
<p>Will impartial government guarantee jobs, increase food supply, will it keep foreign goods from taking over local markets?</p>
<p>I think what you real wanting to say is RESPONSIBLE governance</p>
<p>What about RESPONSIBLE Governance?</p>
<p>Can you comment on this.</p>
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		<title>By: rltj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rltj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe an impartial government exist somewhere. But we Filipinos have our realities. The working class must &quot;capture political power&quot;. There are only two options: one, go to the hills. two, win elections. 

If majority class cannot win elections, they have a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe an impartial government exist somewhere. But we Filipinos have our realities. The working class must &#8220;capture political power&#8221;. There are only two options: one, go to the hills. two, win elections. </p>
<p>If majority class cannot win elections, they have a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: rltj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rltj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good governance is indeed too general. Let&#039;s put it simple and objective... One of them is impartiality by the State. Not a government run by self interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good governance is indeed too general. Let&#8217;s put it simple and objective&#8230; One of them is impartiality by the State. Not a government run by self interests.</p>
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		<title>By: rltj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rltj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A carpenter and a businessman have hardtime understanding each other. class viewpoint, class standpoint.

National industry: businessman sees Filipino capital.Himself. Carpenter sees industry that is in the Philippines, employing Filipinos. Himself

People are dying for a government that is impartial. Thats the ideal. Reality is the state is an instrument of a class. Its by one or by the other. No other way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A carpenter and a businessman have hardtime understanding each other. class viewpoint, class standpoint.</p>
<p>National industry: businessman sees Filipino capital.Himself. Carpenter sees industry that is in the Philippines, employing Filipinos. Himself</p>
<p>People are dying for a government that is impartial. Thats the ideal. Reality is the state is an instrument of a class. Its by one or by the other. No other way?</p>
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		<title>By: tubong_probinsya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tubong_probinsya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What LEGACY do we want to leave the future builders of our nation? 

The legacy of DEBTS.

Debt we&#039;ve been paying for since money was introduced in the land. Our ancestors once had the riches holdings, but literally overnight they became the poorest when money was introduced as the only means of exchanging goods. They did not know where to get money nor how to make them. Thus the beginning of our LEGACY INTO DEBT. 

DEBT cripples our life line to progress.
As soon as we bring our head out 
From the depths of the Oceans
oxygen debt 

We want to leave a lasting impression so that when our future looks back at us, they too can find within themselves the values and vision we intended for them. 

Somehow we have turned away from our past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What LEGACY do we want to leave the future builders of our nation? </p>
<p>The legacy of DEBTS.</p>
<p>Debt we&#8217;ve been paying for since money was introduced in the land. Our ancestors once had the riches holdings, but literally overnight they became the poorest when money was introduced as the only means of exchanging goods. They did not know where to get money nor how to make them. Thus the beginning of our LEGACY INTO DEBT. </p>
<p>DEBT cripples our life line to progress.<br />
As soon as we bring our head out<br />
From the depths of the Oceans<br />
oxygen debt </p>
<p>We want to leave a lasting impression so that when our future looks back at us, they too can find within themselves the values and vision we intended for them. </p>
<p>Somehow we have turned away from our past.</p>
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		<title>By: tubong_probinsya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tubong_probinsya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism, discrimination, and nationalism are independent of each other. Just because you&#039;re one, doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re also the other. 

I wouldn&#039;t go too far as racism, it&#039;s too stigmatizing, perhaps discriminatory. Other nations are discriminating all the time, and that&#039;s a FACT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism, discrimination, and nationalism are independent of each other. Just because you&#8217;re one, doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re also the other. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go too far as racism, it&#8217;s too stigmatizing, perhaps discriminatory. Other nations are discriminating all the time, and that&#8217;s a FACT!</p>
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		<title>By: tubong_probinsya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tubong_probinsya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod J

Pointed question to you Bro: how do me lower trade deficit? 

So that we balance our imports and exports account. Meaning our exports pay enough of the western culture goods that we buy and have to pay back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod J</p>
<p>Pointed question to you Bro: how do me lower trade deficit? </p>
<p>So that we balance our imports and exports account. Meaning our exports pay enough of the western culture goods that we buy and have to pay back.</p>
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		<title>By: tubong_probinsya</title>
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		<dc:creator>tubong_probinsya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod J

Nationalist is about standing for sets of principles that we as Pilipino social agree to lead us to our vision. Is this what our ancestors wanted for us? I don&#039;t think so. Where does racism come from? And even so, where do you stand when the time comes when you have to protect your land from invaders.

Take a look at our average women, because of hardship they sacrifice their personal principles to marry foreigners in order to support family. The point is that they are losing confidence in Pilipino men in carrying on responsibility and nation.

Quit being philosophical about things and know exactly how things work. 

Reading off the theories doesn&#039;t prove your point, it comes down to results. Free market system is only 200 years old and it has gotten us into this mess in a global scale. Meanwhile other classical models have been around for thousands of years and they seem to work, we have survived right. Classical systems are time tested while free market is in developing stages,  thousands of yrs. vs.
200 yrs.

Stock crashes in almost all nation that have market exchanges, hint free market that you so adore, all the time because of speculations. Who pays? The working class and middle class that took a gamble for a better future. 

Rod, bring something to the table Bro. Your argument consist of baseless claim and then lots of similes and metaphors. You&#039;re an opinion based writer. And opinions are worth -10 centavos.

Open your eyes and feel the sentiment of the people around you, Bro and join us middle class. A shift needs to happen, a paradigm shift!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod J</p>
<p>Nationalist is about standing for sets of principles that we as Pilipino social agree to lead us to our vision. Is this what our ancestors wanted for us? I don&#8217;t think so. Where does racism come from? And even so, where do you stand when the time comes when you have to protect your land from invaders.</p>
<p>Take a look at our average women, because of hardship they sacrifice their personal principles to marry foreigners in order to support family. The point is that they are losing confidence in Pilipino men in carrying on responsibility and nation.</p>
<p>Quit being philosophical about things and know exactly how things work. </p>
<p>Reading off the theories doesn&#8217;t prove your point, it comes down to results. Free market system is only 200 years old and it has gotten us into this mess in a global scale. Meanwhile other classical models have been around for thousands of years and they seem to work, we have survived right. Classical systems are time tested while free market is in developing stages,  thousands of yrs. vs.<br />
200 yrs.</p>
<p>Stock crashes in almost all nation that have market exchanges, hint free market that you so adore, all the time because of speculations. Who pays? The working class and middle class that took a gamble for a better future. </p>
<p>Rod, bring something to the table Bro. Your argument consist of baseless claim and then lots of similes and metaphors. You&#8217;re an opinion based writer. And opinions are worth -10 centavos.</p>
<p>Open your eyes and feel the sentiment of the people around you, Bro and join us middle class. A shift needs to happen, a paradigm shift!</p>
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		<title>By: rltjs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Filipino bourgeoisie, particularly the so called nationalist bourgeoisie is a hopeless one. A goose that does not lay golden egg. does&#039;nt deserve any protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Filipino bourgeoisie, particularly the so called nationalist bourgeoisie is a hopeless one. A goose that does not lay golden egg. does&#8217;nt deserve any protection.</p>
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		<title>By: rltjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>rltjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>protectionism is also called narrow nationalism aka racism. mang-unggoy na rin lang tayo, ungoyin na natin ang sistema na yong tested na, epektibo, make sense. If you noticed about the cat that cathes mice, theoreya ni Deng Shao yan. I think it makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>protectionism is also called narrow nationalism aka racism. mang-unggoy na rin lang tayo, ungoyin na natin ang sistema na yong tested na, epektibo, make sense. If you noticed about the cat that cathes mice, theoreya ni Deng Shao yan. I think it makes sense.</p>
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